desk crit no. 9 From Jina

December 12, 2005

What an excellent project, Robin!

You may not need crits but I decided to go through projects on your STUDIO website and give my crits to folks who’s done great job.

It is very artistic and beautiful all around. I know you are kind of tired of hearing compliments by now…so here are a few minor crits.

Overall, I found it somewhat difficult to see the menus and navigate. I think it is because font sizes are too small and/or not eye-catching enough in comparison to everything else on a page.

On the main navigation, I literally had to roll the mouse over to see what it says…maybe it’s my eye sight.

I don’t know the whole purpose of this website…you can tell I didn’t read your project management site. But it would be great if you provide some sort of introduction on what it’s about on the main page or somewhere obvious. I was confused and still am somewhat wondering what it is about.

On the “art slideshow” page, “main page” link disappears from the main navigation bar.

I really liked the way you did the slideshow! Brilliant!

On the “about the artists” page, on the bottom…there are some blocks of purple bars or blocks or whatever you call it laying there… I just wasn’t sure what they were about. It seems like decoration…but nowhere else has them.

About the main navigation, I know you used CSS for it…it would be better if I can tell which page I currently am by just looking at the main navigation bar or somewhere. I was confused where I am.

These are all nit-picky things and I loved your project! You are very creative.

Good luck!


desk crit no. 8 From Mary Miller

December 12, 2005

Hi, Robin.

As is always the case with pretty much anything you create, your Web site is stunning!

I like the look and feel very much. A meta site, it both is art and is about art! It’s very

warm and inviting, which is not always the case for something with so much style!

When I looked at your site during the studio showcase trial run on the 17th of November,

I suggested that you change the style of the text on the “Thoughts on Creativity” section.

You have now done that and it is much easier to read while still looking very cool.

I particularly like the way you have done navigation for that section. I do think it would

be nice if you added some sort of “back to top” link and I think you could do that at the

same point as each of your internal navigation sections without throwing things off

too badly.

I have a couple of suggestions for the artist info section.

  1. Begin with artist’s full name. I noticed Rene’s last name was not given. Perhaps put the name in bold to make it stand out a bit more.
  2. List your live interview participants alphabetically as you have done with your thoughts participants.

I also have some comments on the artist interviews and demos section.

You have a lot of dead space on this page. With the current image size, it would be possible to put the content in a table with two columns. Or, you could just add something fun to look at next to the info sections. But I am not loving the empty space in the tan box.

However, I do really love most everything else about your site. Thank you for creating

this valuable and interesting resource!

desk crit no. 7 From Elizabeth

December 12, 2005

Wow! Your visual appeal is out the roof!

Suggestions: “examples of artwork, hear and read thoughts of artists, see artists creating art, and add your own thoughts on creativity. What is creativity? Will this project will spark your interest in arts and creativity?” – period after artwork. Hear and read….. take second will out of last sentence.on Project Info

there does seem to be some common threads there does seem to be some common threads – change does to do
I can’t see the “i” in relfection in the header.

I only wish I knew how to do half what you have done! Very impressive.

desk crit no. From Yi-Wen Tan

December 12, 2005
These are desk crits that came in while I was sick, so I am just adding them now.-------------------Hi, Robin:I like your website. The color is so strong and powerful. The design is neat!

Only three small question/suggestion:
  • The slide show you makes on the art examples page has a small problem to me. The play button seems can not work. It is supposed to play the slides automatically, right?
  • On the end of “Thoughts on creativity”, you may want to put a button to help audience go back to the top/menu of the page. Just like the button you make at the end of each section.
  • After I click “Add your thoughts”, I don’t know how to come back to your project. Maybe you could pop-up a new window for the blogger, or use frames to put the blogger in your website.
Hope it is helpful.

Yi-Wen Tan

REFLECTION 9b (FINAL): The big picture pt. 2

December 11, 2005

I’m not sure how many people come into the IDD program with an arts related background (actually my background is kind of all over the map, but it does contain some art studio experience) so I thought it might be interesting for me (and any others for that matter) to reflect on the studio experience in comparison with an art studio experience. I will say that there are some distinct similiarities and some differences…

  • Both are self learning experiences under the direction of an instructor. The instructor may give guidance, but a majority of the work is done independently.
  • Both have a critical review process by peers, IDD studio in written desk crits, and arts studio in critique, which is generally a verbal format. I think one of the challenges in both is that people really do not know how to critique. Doing it well is a very hard skill to learn. It’s neither about being overly cruel (ripping something to shreds without justification) or conversely, singing its praises. Also, it’s not necessarily just about pointing out small technical imperfections, but should look at the work in its entirety. I know that I struggle with critique (and desk crits, for that matter) but it is a good part of the process. One difference between desk crits and art critique is that it is usually a group (or in many cases the whole class) who look at the work. I do think there are good ideas that arise out of a group critique which would not normally come out in individual discussion.
  • At an undergraduate level, the arts studio classes are at a much more instructional and technical level: students are assigned general things to do (such as drawing from a life model) which is in some ways similiar to the exercises and proficiency check that 6190 first timers do. At a graduate level, students have much more freedom to choose their tools and medium, as well as the content of their works.
  • Both IDD studio & arts classes work toward an end goal: either submission of a portfolio, a final exhibit, or in the case of IDD, the showcase.
  • One difference between arts studio and IDD studio is

desk crit no. 5 from Kristin

November 29, 2005

Hi Robin,

I came around during Reiber’s class and looked at your website. I think it looks awesome. I am really impressed with the artwork that you and the other artists have created. I like this site because I am so far from being artistic that I can appreciate when other people are artistic. I like the interviews with the artists. I think that you might could add the time of each interview next to their picture. Some of the interviews were longer than I thought. I couldn’t get the drek davis drawing clip to come up. The drawing clip of you was incredible. The blog was a nice touch. I like the fact that you made an interactive website where others could be an addition to what you have researched thus far. I am sorry that my crit is not more critical but it looks fabulous. Congratulations, Kristen

desk crit no. 4 from Jamie

November 27, 2005
Hi again, Robin,I've visited your site several times already, always amazed not only by your design, but also by your vast artisticabilities.  Your yellow bar really helps to move through the site, and I love your use of color.

Here are some suggestions for modifications:
  • On your intro page, you could add the blue border that’s on the other pages (around the white box).
  • On your art examples page, you have written “visit the live interviews.” That sounds awkward to me. In this same box, the font styles of your links vary.
  • On your artist interviews page, you might consider changing the title from “Artist live interviews,” and there’s a lot of white space on this page. I would like to see larger images of the video links.
  • The yellow centered text on your “thoughts” page is awkwardly placed.
  • I’m not sure about how to add comments to the “your thoughts” page, but then, I’m still not familiar with the blogging thing. Also about this page, it seems like it might be better to leave off your studio links. You might opt to create a separate page for those.
  • Add a question mark to “Why this project” on your project info page (in the purple box) so that it’s consistent with the yellow text.
  • On your link bar, it would be great of all of the text fit on the same line (without the “only” hanging off the end. Also, I like your use of lower case. I would change “Add your thoughts” to lower case, maybe changing it to just “your thoughts.”
  • On your art examples page, consider adding a title in a purple box to be consistent with the other pages.
  • You’re missing a link for Mary Padegelak on your thoughts on creativity page, and on this same page, there’s some discrepancy in font style in the links (yours are not bold like the others, it look like).
  • Lastly, on your project info page, you might center your yellow links.

REFLECTION 8: Meeting standards and validating

November 27, 2005

Isn’t it lovely? (ok, I was fighting with blogger over posting code, so I just did a screen capture… it’s kind of a blurry gif, sorry about that….) This screenshot shows what the meta for my site looks like.
…and I was kind of lazy with some parts of the meta… especially the LC subject headings part, I know there are better ones…)
…and there are actually 2 kinds of meta in this project: stuff input by dreamweaver (keywords) and DC. The reason I am including meta even though I am using a NO ROBOTs tag (which tells the web seach engine & other spiders to go away & not index)
is that

  • accessibility checkers need some of this meta,
  • HTML checkers need some of this meta and
  • whenever I release this for public, I will change the robot tag but not have to worry about anything else. 😉

In the process of ensuring that my project meets minimal guidelines for accessibility and that the code itself validates, I hit a roadblock with the code validation. The accessibility part is not the issue; I was able to create a text only page using UGA’s text only generator (fabulous!) and I made sure to use alt tags throughout. I do think one big advantage with CSS is that there is just not as much in the way of code on the actual html pages, which makes accessibility that much easier, I would think. (No tables and little code formatting in the actual pages…)

My CSS validated beautifully using the W3C validating tool. However, when I tried to validate the HTML, it kept failing. Why? Well, it has to do with the metadata that I have chosen to use (part of which is required for accessibility issues) I very much want to use LC’s Dublin Core (DC). DC is kind of an old friend and well, being a librarian, part of me feels that I should ALWAYS follow LC policies and practices… well, they do not have policies and practices for everything in life 😉 but at least for metadata!

If you duplicate any fields in the metadata, the HTML checkers will just toss it out. Thankfully, this was a relatively easy fix for me. I just had to delete my (title)(/title) tags and use the DC title tag. Kind of a scary thought…. (btw, I can’t seem to use brackets in blogger as it conflicts with the templates somehow….) , but it seems to work just fine and validates. I also considered throwing out the html and just going with xhtml, but thought I would just stick with what I have at the moment. 😉

I am very keen on accessibility as a practice, although in my personal projects, I am not as good a steward of good design as I should be… I sometimes forget the alt tags when I posting images in my online art journal (it does have full meta and it is framed in CSS, but I’m not sure that it would validate… I supposed I should give it a try…)

For additional reading and reference, I’ve enclosed some additional links at the bottom about CSS and accessibility. Now on to my article….

In Stephen’s article, which is in response to a discussion posted on NODE stating that ” Lines will have to be drawn and limits to accessibility will have to be defined – that’s just the nature of the medium,” he agrees that accessibility is an important issue which needs to be defined. He goes on to state that “[u]niversal access involves rather more than including image and link descriptions… In some cases, the technology does not yet exist to enable full accessibility. In other cases full accessibility will be either impractical or impossible.”

Considering this article was written in 1998, it is interesting to me that things have not changed alot. Yes, standards have become more common and people do talk about accessibility on occasion, but the simple fact that different browsers STILL render code differently is kind of amazing. It would seem like the web has been around long enough now, that standards should be the highest priority. Because without standards, there is no consistency, and without consistency, user experiences are different (sometimes bad, sometimes good), designers have to work harder to try to address browser issues, and companies who create software or hardware to interact with the Internet have to take into account how (or even IF) their product will work….

After reading this article I do feel a little better about my problem in getting my code to validate!

PROJECT PROCESS: I did add a blog where users could add their own thoughts on creativity. I also tried to add explanatory text in terms of the intent of this project. My project validates (HTML, CSS) and my project meets accessibility criteria for WAVE and Watchfire.

REFERENCE: Downes, Stephen. (1998). in Stephen’s Web, Downes, S. (2005).

CSS and accessibility
Accessibility features of CSS,

CSS Accessibility,

Word Count: a whole bunch

Desk crit no. 8 Jamie González

November 27, 2005

I am using firefox on windows xp… (just to let you know…)
I like your project very much. The color scheme is nice and simple (which is not a bad thing!) and the content seems well organized.

Just a note:
on page

Las partes del cuerpo
I felt like I should be able to click on the images… or maybe some text above the images to explain that they are examples(?)

by the way, a neat little trick to give info to accompanying an image with a mouse rollover is to add a title to image properties. I believe you can do that in dreamweaver somehow but to do with the code, you just use the title tag… like so…
With your ears image…

../../My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/orejas.gif” alt=”las orejas” title =”ears” width=”229″ height=”196″

anyhow, just a thought… it might be a way to give ‘hints’ or answers without a whole lot of work.
I love the quizzes. Very well done.

Desk crit no. 7 Elizabeth Foster

November 27, 2005

I really like the color scheme on the main page. It’s lively but modern. 🙂 One thing that I am wondering about is whether the title on the main page might ‘pop’ more in white or a different color?

Also, the gold is such a strong color (which I very much like on the main page) I am wondering whether you could find a way to pull some gold – just a little – throughout the website… Maybe in your titles (…and it doesn’t have to be the same exact color as the main page to give a feel of continuity…)

As for navigation, I really like the main page menus. Any thought to adding those into the rest of the html pages?

Also on the menu on the main page, something strange is happening with navigation on the great books. It looks like everything else in the table is divided into 2 rows, but that column isn’t. In other words, just looking at it from a visual viewpoint, there is no black line between the button ‘Great Books’ and text ‘Books 3rd graders recommend’.

Finally, the calendar link didn’t work. I realize you are not finished with your project, but thought I would just mention it…

Oh, and just to let you know, I use firefox and your site looks fine to me. I’ve had a couple of problems viewing other people’s sites which appear to related to firefox, so I thought I would just mention that. 😉

Good job. Your website seems clear in its purpose and I think structure and color wise is fine, except for the few minor things I’ve mentioned.